Thread:Jester of chaos/@comment-28302658-20160918033407/@comment-4708882-20170205063428

Yeah not all those TV Tropes says "no" to will be taken off of the Villains wiki and not all the ones they count will always be accepted on the villains wiki. For example they count Hylden Lord one but I have removed him several times because he cares for his people.

Basically if you want to know the Hylden Lord and his race were banished to a Hell-Dimension because they refused the Ancients' God (A CM at that) and were prepared to commit genocide at some point much like the Ancients' who banished them because their God said basically "They aren't mortal nor do they worship me? Kill or banish them for their lack of service". When one of the Hylden after creating the machine regrets it the Hylden Lord banished him for basically helping cause their down fall or something (it's been years so a little fuzzy on specifics) before the Hylden cursed the Ancients' to become vampires which made their God abandon them because they became immortal. Now TV Tropes approved him and said he never cared for his people and only wanted to kill humanity and Vampires but the kicker is he constantly in Blood Omen 2 says they will pay for banishing his people to a Hell-Dimension which deforms / corrupts the body and mind. They use the fact he sends a some of the people that he freed to kill Kain despite knowing most if not all might die due to being weaker but the kicker is if Kain did what he wanted not only would the portal close to the Hell-Dimension imprisoning countless others but also would kill all the Hylden including the Hylden Lord that were now free due to that somehow closing off their immortality / some mystical connection (again be it's been a bit so it's fuzzy). Even when Kain does succeed in basically closing the portal the Hylden Lord is pissed and even as he dies fights Kain to where when defeated he only mocks Kain by saying while he may die his people are at least ensured immortality and one day they will escape from their imprisonment. Yeah he's a racist genocidal villain (if not somewhat cool IMO) but he does sincerely free his people and hates what happened to him plus apparently the quickest if not only way to free all his people would be to eradicate humanity and vampires so that the seal would be broken.

Interesting note on TV Tropes: I think when I created two pages on the Villains Wiki (Graven and Ernst Frederik Egin) it helped get two characters approved because not long after creating the page and even adding them to CM explaining why I felt they should count two users came onto the Complete Monster cleanup form saying they think they had a possible candidate and got approved with little to no argument.